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#021 – Subtractive psychology: Are formless principles too ‘woo-woo’ for a corporate lawyer

Posted on March 1, 2019 by Jamie Smart

Released 1st March 2019 Subscribe: iTunes | Stitcher

Are formless principles too ‘woo-woo’ for a corporate lawyer?

In this episode of the get clarity podcast, we’re going to be answering this question about subtractive psychology: are formless principles too ‘woo-woo’ for a corporate lawyer?

Here’s the back story.

You may recall that I conducted a 3-day Clarity 1:1 Coaching Intensive with a corporate lawyer named Andy, in front of a live audience of coaches, therapists and trainers.

A year later, I did a live follow-up interview with Andy in front of an audience, to find out how the experience changed his world and give people the chance to ask us BOTH questions.

There were some real surprises – for instance someone asked Andy whether he would have been prepared to pay full price for the intensive, knowing what he knows now (Andy paid £4,000 instead of the usual fee of £30,000, in return for letting an audience watch and listen as he went through the entire experience).


As you can imagine, I was waiting with baited breath to hear his answer in front of an audience of over 100 people!

I’ve decided to share the whole interview with you, because it’s so aligned with the purpose my team and I are working to.

As you may know, we believe the most valuable things a person can discover are how their mind works, and who they really are. Well, this interview demonstrates why they’re so valuable– the immeasurable, practical, real-world benefits of learning just these two things, specifically.

And when I say learning, I mean realising them insightfully – not just as concepts, beliefs or ideas, but as bedrock facts that make a go-forward difference in your life.

These two facts (how your mind works and who you really are) are what Andy realised insightfully during his intensive, and what you’re going to hear is the difference those two discoveries have made in his work, and in his life as a whole.

In the interview he reports on the changes in:

– His sense of trust in himself and his decision-making
– His levels of relaxation
– His productivity
– His parenting and family life
– Starting his own coaching practice
– His deep-down knowing about whether he can handle anything that comes his way, including a company shakeup following the intensive, that took the team of nine senior executives down to just two people (one of which was Andy)

Here are some of the questions Andy gave answers to:

– How did how you operate in the world before VS after the intensive? What changed for you?

– How did things change around your career transition and your ability to take action and be productive?

– Knowing what you know now, would you have been prepared to pay the full price (£30,000) for your intensive?

– What was the biggest new belief that you gained about yourself in the intensive that you felt was most transformative? (Andy’s answer to this was particularly interesting, because of the ‘subtractive’ nature of this work)

– How did you go about building your coaching practice alongside your corporate lawyer role?

– What impact has the intensive have had on your relationships – for instance work colleagues, family etc?

– What do you think the difference would have been if you’d had regular coaching in hourly sessions rather than an intensive?

I was also asked some technical questions (E.g. do you ever do Intensives remotely? The answer is “yes”), as well as what I’d learned personally from the intensive, so it was great to share my insights from the session.

If you’d like to contact Andy to find out more about his coaching services, you can reach him on andyjsmith101 at gmail dot com or at his “Business Success Made Simple” Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/130424981156517/

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